anyone on here running on carbs ?
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typhoon
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anyone on here running on carbs ?
wondered if anyone on here is running there swift on carbs and what they have done to do it
jesseswiftgti- Posts : 506
Join date : 2010-03-19
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first car: 5
Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
get yourself a manifold and a set of GSXr carbs and away you go,should run without any changes to ecu,well they did on my 205 gti but you will need to get a fuel pressure regulator to get the fuel pressure down from the what it runs with injection or it wont work
i might have a set of throttle bodies and manifold for sale later in the year off my race car when i get the jenveys fitted but you will have to run with a mapped ecu to do that,but sound great lol
i might have a set of throttle bodies and manifold for sale later in the year off my race car when i get the jenveys fitted but you will have to run with a mapped ecu to do that,but sound great lol
typhoon- Posts : 223
Join date : 2010-09-26
Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
did the throttle bodys make a good increase in power?
jesseswiftgti- Posts : 506
Join date : 2010-03-19
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Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
im running twin 40 dellortos on my gti. sounds awesome!!
most people prefer motorbike carbs though these days but i picked them up cheap.
when you get a set of carbs sorted you will need:
custom manifold (i had mine made by bogg bros)
fuel pressure reg (set to about 3psi)
low pressure fuel pump (standard pump will knacker the regulator after a while)
mk1 vac advance dizzy (or you will have no ignition advance)
custom throttle cable
injector holes need to be blanked off
also i had issues with the carbs fouling the brake servo and had to re route my vac pipe.
Then your carbs will need to be jetted on the rolling road
most people prefer motorbike carbs though these days but i picked them up cheap.
when you get a set of carbs sorted you will need:
custom manifold (i had mine made by bogg bros)
fuel pressure reg (set to about 3psi)
low pressure fuel pump (standard pump will knacker the regulator after a while)
mk1 vac advance dizzy (or you will have no ignition advance)
custom throttle cable
injector holes need to be blanked off
also i had issues with the carbs fouling the brake servo and had to re route my vac pipe.
Then your carbs will need to be jetted on the rolling road
polley- Posts : 22
Join date : 2008-03-13
Location : Hereford
Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
Jessey,
I thought you wanted my ITBs setup!?
I have now more or less completed 80%.
So, it has 36mm bore x4 and you can used your std injections.
It has a TPS and thiking of using bigger capacity MAF from Vitara for you to run with your std ECU.
Cheers
Atchi
I thought you wanted my ITBs setup!?
I have now more or less completed 80%.
So, it has 36mm bore x4 and you can used your std injections.
It has a TPS and thiking of using bigger capacity MAF from Vitara for you to run with your std ECU.
Cheers
Atchi
Miniswift- Posts : 492
Join date : 2008-03-13
Age : 50
Location : Newton Hall, Durham
Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
yeh i do want them, i posted this befor we talked about your itb's
jesseswiftgti- Posts : 506
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Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
n e more of these itb setups going around it sounds alot easier than carbs.
leachy- Posts : 266
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Age : 39
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Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
I think carbs would be more easyer than ITB's
jesseswiftgti- Posts : 506
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Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
surly it must be easier if ur using standard injectors and ecu and no mk1 dizzy.
leachy- Posts : 266
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Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
when you use carbs you dont even need to use mk1 dizzy you can run it on ecu
jesseswiftgti- Posts : 506
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Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
stop thinking honestly turbo it if you want cheap power or do the usual bolt on mods if your on a budget you wont like the outcome otherwise and no you cant run carbs on a ecu and stock dizzy how the feck will the timing advance just listen and learn
steve
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Join date : 2008-03-02
Age : 35
Location : london
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Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
Hey Steve,
You can indeed run with stdard ECU with carbs.
But you are right, there won't be any advance and you will be driving in limp home mode with engine light on, all the time.
Bruce aka Hamgar used to run with 932 cams with 45 DCOE webers. I think he was getting close to 135Bhp and it was class winning sprint car. His car was not everyday driver so I won't recommend it to anyone.
I think turboing your car will be cheapest option for power increase for ££s you spend.
Still, you will be looking at minimum £1k just for parts to do it well.
I think if you are going this route, you will need to have your gearbox sorted or go Justy gearbox.
I know how good turbo is as Jerry's toy is over 250Bhp for sure but with 4WD with LSDs which I found for him. I have driven his car when it was only 180Bhp. It was very smooth and quick. Power is nothing without control or if you can't use it by wheels spinning( this will kill your diff!).
So increasing power slightly(usable), I think this will be a great improvement.
What do you think?
Cheers
Atchi
You can indeed run with stdard ECU with carbs.
But you are right, there won't be any advance and you will be driving in limp home mode with engine light on, all the time.
Bruce aka Hamgar used to run with 932 cams with 45 DCOE webers. I think he was getting close to 135Bhp and it was class winning sprint car. His car was not everyday driver so I won't recommend it to anyone.
I think turboing your car will be cheapest option for power increase for ££s you spend.
Still, you will be looking at minimum £1k just for parts to do it well.
I think if you are going this route, you will need to have your gearbox sorted or go Justy gearbox.
I know how good turbo is as Jerry's toy is over 250Bhp for sure but with 4WD with LSDs which I found for him. I have driven his car when it was only 180Bhp. It was very smooth and quick. Power is nothing without control or if you can't use it by wheels spinning( this will kill your diff!).
So increasing power slightly(usable), I think this will be a great improvement.
What do you think?
Cheers
Atchi
Miniswift- Posts : 492
Join date : 2008-03-13
Age : 50
Location : Newton Hall, Durham
Re: anyone on here running on carbs ?
I would love a turbo but i think i dont even want like a extra 100 bhp i would be happy with a extra 30 bhp and smaller final drive so more acceleration
jesseswiftgti- Posts : 506
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