konis???
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konis???
has any got or can any one measure the od of the front and back konis shocks for a swift (the outer barral part as want to no if a coilover threaded sleve will fit over them correct to make them into coil overs cheers
swifty- Posts : 375
Join date : 2009-05-26
Age : 36
Re: konis???
u would need 2inch sleeves for the front shocks
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=1358&products_id=3450
http://www.redlinegti.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36560&sid=a96b895afd20b6dabd0bbb7af5244584
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=1358&products_id=3450
http://www.redlinegti.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36560&sid=a96b895afd20b6dabd0bbb7af5244584
Almondo74- Posts : 961
Join date : 2009-07-25
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Location : Cornwall
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first car: Swift GL
Re: konis???
thanks i was looking at these but didnt no which size to get
http://www.compbrake.co.uk/Suspension-Acc-39-s/Suspension-Hardware/2-1/4-SPRING-CONVERSION-KIT-EACH/prod_929.html
http://www.compbrake.co.uk/Suspension-Acc-39-s/Suspension-Hardware/2-1/2-SPRING-CONVERSION-KIT-EACH/prod_930.html
http://www.compbrake.co.uk/Suspension-Acc-39-s/Suspension-Hardware/2-1/4-SPRING-CONVERSION-KIT-EACH/prod_929.html
http://www.compbrake.co.uk/Suspension-Acc-39-s/Suspension-Hardware/2-1/2-SPRING-CONVERSION-KIT-EACH/prod_930.html
swifty- Posts : 375
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Re: konis???
Iv been thinking of doing my own soon, oe dampers are 45mm od, so you will have to put a sleave in to fill the gap
dominator- Posts : 1298
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first car: renult 5 ts (1.7!)
Re: konis???
So what happened to your civic setup?
dominator- Posts : 1298
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first car: renult 5 ts (1.7!)
Re: konis???
45mm on the front or back and its not strong enuff especially on the back getting a lot of flex due to civics having double wishbone setup
swifty- Posts : 375
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Re: konis???
Defo front, iv got a spare at work, im sure the rears are aswell but they are sealed units so you will have to be carefull when welding the thread on, or have a go at draining them 1st
dominator- Posts : 1298
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Re: konis???
front struts are 44mm external diameter and will need an additional sleeve/packing to accept the readily available 2 inch rally design style threaded sleeves. 45mmID sleeves are available but expensive
If your going to do this Id suggest offseting the sleeve in wards to allow more wheel clearance but the top spring mount will also require ofsett drilling, best see if Rally deisgn will sell undrilled tops or if their D top can be offset drilled to suit, we are talking 3mm or so
The rear turrets may not be strong enough to hold the weight of the car if the rears are converted to coilovers. and may need reinforcing. While looking around rally design look at the turret boxes for Mk1/Mk2 escorts this is what you need and even then may still want to be laterally braced or attached to a cage. As mentioned above after propper welding the rear shock absorbers will want a rebuild to remove the weld penetration flare on the inside
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If your going to do this Id suggest offseting the sleeve in wards to allow more wheel clearance but the top spring mount will also require ofsett drilling, best see if Rally deisgn will sell undrilled tops or if their D top can be offset drilled to suit, we are talking 3mm or so
The rear turrets may not be strong enough to hold the weight of the car if the rears are converted to coilovers. and may need reinforcing. While looking around rally design look at the turret boxes for Mk1/Mk2 escorts this is what you need and even then may still want to be laterally braced or attached to a cage. As mentioned above after propper welding the rear shock absorbers will want a rebuild to remove the weld penetration flare on the inside
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gtpswift- Posts : 398
Join date : 2009-05-25
Location : Melbourne Australia
Re: konis???
ok kool thanks so do the rears need sleeveing aswel i can make the sleeves no prob and i have fixed my cage to turrets etc for the honda set up i tried thanks
swifty- Posts : 375
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Re: konis???
I believe the rears will also need sleeving as they are of similar dimensions. how is the cage attached to the rear turrets...photos as if its the side the coilover may try and bust through the top
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gtpswift- Posts : 398
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Re: konis???
O rite Kool in that case do you think if i weld a top cap on the sleve and put a hole in it for the piston rod and weld the thread to the sleve do u think that will hold to save welding to the shock and at the my cage goes to the wheel bit gona put a brace down to the top mount
swifty- Posts : 375
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Re: konis???
no dont like that idea at all, these things want to be very secure and done properly. what you might be able to do is just try it with lighter welds and hope.
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gtpswift- Posts : 398
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Location : Melbourne Australia
Re: konis???
Does anyone if there are two types of swift konis ones which adjust at the top while on the car and one which u have to adjust of the car also how do u adjust the ones that u have to do of the car thanks
swifty- Posts : 375
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Re: konis???
Koni only make one type of shock absorber for our swifts these are adjsuted but pushing the shaft all the way in and rotating till they click in and then adjusting. These need to be adjusted out of th ecar. there is a similar sized shock absorber that fits the e82 starlet I think? it is top adjustable and actually shorter so we can run lower. check out here and redline.
Cheers
Justin
Cheers
Justin
gtpswift- Posts : 398
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Re: konis???
Ohlins made some for the swift with ex adjust
Very rare and expencive
Very rare and expencive
dominator- Posts : 1298
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Re: konis???
But I have to add adjustable Konis are really only adjustable to account for wear. tuning is marginal at best and to be honest once set properly unless your changing springs, etc all the time the adjustment is not necessary. I have top adjustable on my Mk1 escort race car and once set to the right level I havent touched them in years.
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